Weight Specs

parkerbomar · 12-01-2009, 11:32 AM

Original Post by Parker Bomar.

HUBS

heaviest to lightest

P = plastic
M = metal
H = hybrid

Mankhick hubs x4 = 1200g M
Mbs Trispokes x4 = 936g P
Flame cryptics x4 = 820g P
Trampa superstars x4 = 750g H
GI terrainulas x4 = 726g M
Mbs rockstar pros x4 = 678g M
GI crosshairs x4 = 635g P
Trampa hypas x4 = 620g P
Mbs rockstars x4 = 550g P
Primo Tri-spoke Hubs x4 = 540g P
Mbs twistars x4 = 504g P
scrub 5 spoke x4 = 848g

TRUCKS

heaviest to lightest

~ = spring trucks
(s) = skate
[ ] = torsion cubes
^ = Vector
0 = tube style trucks

Mbs matrix x2 = 2014g ~
scrubs channel x2 = 2000g ~
Anarkite trucks x2 = 2000g 0
Revo trucks x2 = 1950g 0
Trampa infinity x2 = 1940g ~
GI Bionic Springs x2 = 1904g ~
GI bionic Cubes 09/10 x2 = 1814g [ ]
Mbs matrix lite x2 = 1714g ~
Trampa vertigo x2 = 1700g ~
Flame Torsion x2 = 1600g [ ]
Mbs vector x2 = 1560g ^
NoSno Standard Aluminium = 1500g (s)
Mbs vector pro x2 = 1416g ^
Mbs ats x2 = 1350g (s)
GI skate x2 = 1270g (s)
scrubs skate x2 = 1236g (s)
Mbs ats pro x2 = 1132g (s)
GI skate hollow x2 = 1088g (s)
GI titanium skate x2 = 906g (s)

Grip Tape

Trampa tape x2 = 436g
Grip tape x2 = 50g

Bindings

R = ratchets
C = Camlock
V = velcro

Flame Ratchets x2 =624g R
Flame Velcro x2 =600 V
GI talons x2 = 566g R
GI freestyles x2 = 566g R
GI Raptor bindings = 530g R
Trampa ratchet x2 = 528g R
Mbs F3 x2 =524g R
Mbs F4 x2 =500g R
Trampa velcro x2 = 460g V
Trampa hybrid x2 = 496g V
Trampa Camlock x2 = 474g C
Mbs F2 x2 =434g V
Mbs freeflex x2 =300g V

Heelstraps

Mbs Fx pro x2 = 424 R
Mbs Fx x2 = 400 V
Trampa Heels x2 = 180g R

Decks

Design Extreme - Genisis = 1200g
Cambello Pro Comp 25 ply = 1200grams
Design Extreme - 15° Deck = 1350g
MBS - Core 1 = 1356g
Cambello decks = 1526grams
MBS pro 90 1617g
Flexifoil - Airdeck = 1800g
MBS - Comp 90 (2007) = 1875g
MBS - Comp 6 = 1950g
MBS - Pro 16 Leon Robbins = 2000g
Trampa - 15° Kitedeck 12ply = 2200g
Trampa - 35° KiteDeck 12ply = 2250g
Ground Industries - Flight Light 100 = 2270g
Kheo Bazick = 2290g
Trampa - 15° Kitedeck 13ply = 2350g
Trampa - 35° KiteDeck 13ply = 2400g
Trampa - 15° Skate Deck Short 12 Ply = 2400g
Trampa - 15° Kitedeck 14ply = 2500g
Flexifoil - Flexdeck = 2500g
Trampa - 35° KiteDeck 14ply = 2550g
Trampa - 15° Skate Deck Short 13 Ply = 2600g
Trampa - 15° Kitedeck 15ply = 2650g
Trampa - 35° KiteDeck 15ply = 2700g
Trampa - 15° Skate Deck Long 12 Ply = 2700g
MBS - Comp 16 = 2750g
MBS - Core 16 = 2750g
Trampa - 15° Skate Deck Short 14 Ply = 2800g
Trampa - 15° Skate Deck Long 13 Ply = 2900g
35° Channel Deck 14ply = 2950g
Trampa - 15° Skate Deck Short 15 Ply = 3000g
Trampa - Flexifoil - Kava = 3100g
Trampa - 15° Skate Deck Long 14 Ply = 3100g
Trampa - 35° Channel Deck 15ply = 3150g
Trampa - 15° Skate Deck Long 15 Ply = 3300g
Trampa - 35° Channel Deck 16ply = 3350g
Trampa - 35° Channel Deck 17ply = 3550g

TIRES

Primo Alpha tyre & tube 8" = 1500g
GI balistiks 8" = 1350g
T1 tyre & tube 8" = 1280g

Innertubes/pneumatics

9in x4 = 500g
8in x4 = 328g

Misc. Hardware

MBS Grab Handle = 104g
M6 x 30mm (inc nut and washer) = 10g
Axel Nut = 5g
Skate Truck Bearing = 12g
Truck Mounting Screw = 5g
Truck Mounting Nut = <1g
Binding Mounting Screw (short) = 4g
Wheel Bearing (6001-2RS) = 20g
Skate Kingpin Bearing (6000RS) = 19g
Egg Shocks (Yellow) = 7g
Maui Magic Mystic Grab Handle = 60g
Adjustment Screw = 11g
Adjustment Washer = 9g
Kingpin (Channel) = 62g
Kingpin (Skate) = 31g
Kingpin Nut (Channel) = 5g
Kingpin Nut (Skate) = 3.5g
Kingpin Spacer = <1g
Kingpin Washer (Skate) = 3g
Freeflex Post = 33g
Freeflex Nut = 4g
Freeflex T-Nut = 5g
Tri Spoke Hub Screw = 8g
Tri Spoke Hub Nut = 2g
Rockstar Hub Screw = 4g
Rockstar Hub Nut = <1g
Tophat-Top = 7g
Tophat-Bottom = 7.5g
Bottom Tophat Screw = 2g
Truck Mounting Screw = 5g
Truck Mounting Nut = <1g
Binding Mounting Screw (short) = 4g
Wheel Bearing (6001-2RS) = 20g
Skate Kingpin Bearing (6000RS) = 19g
Spring = 58g
Egg Shocks (Yellow) = 7g
Kheo Bazick Foot Pads = 190g

Jasper · 12-01-2009, 12:07 PM

are the channel trucks the ones with the plastic hangers or the metal?

parkerbomar · 12-01-2009, 12:07 PM

channels with the metal.

Jasper · 12-01-2009, 12:09 PM

kewl, good to know, interesting how theyre lighter than mbs matrix

parkerbomar · 12-01-2009, 12:10 PM

that weight difference is the metal vs plastic im sure.
this also applies to the Trampa vertigo vs Mbs matrix lite.

Jasper · 12-01-2009, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parkerbomar

that weight difference is the metal vs plastic im sure.
this also applies to the Trampa vertigo vs Mbs matrix lite.

im not sure if i understand you correctly, im thinking u mean that the matrix lights need so much plastic to keep it strong that a small peice of titanium is actually lighter?

parkerbomar · 12-01-2009, 12:17 PM

thats what it looks like since the scrubs are the exact same truck as the matrix just with 7g difference per truck and use a metal hanger instead of plastic.

McCarver · 12-01-2009, 12:55 PM

Nice Parker, did you build this yourself?

parkerbomar · 12-01-2009, 01:19 PM

Ya I was sick so I stayed home and had free time. haha.

McCarver · 12-01-2009, 01:28 PM

Very nice man, got a few pictures to go with it? Now to weigh the decks so we can know what the lightest possible pro set up would be.

Maybe we could order them by weight like this:

Mbs matrix x2 = 2014g ~
scrubs channel x2 = 2000g ~
Anarkite trucks x2 = 2000g 0
Revo trucks x2 = 1950g 0
Trampa infinity x2 = 1940g ~
GI Bionic Springs x2 = 1904g ~
GI bionic Cubes 09/10 x2 = 1814g [ ]
Mbs matrix lite x2 = 1714g ~
Trampa vertigo x2 = 1700g ~
Flame Torsion x2 = 1600g [ ]
Mbs vector pro x2 = 1416g ^
GI skate x2 = 1270g (s)
scrubs skate x2 = 1236g (s)
Mbs ats pro x2 = 1132g (s)
GI skate hollow x2 = 1088g (s)
GI titanium skate x2 = 906g (s)

parkerbomar · 12-01-2009, 01:40 PM

I wanted to do the bindings. but no one seems to list there binding weight besides trampa

if we could get people to weigh there parts i would like to figure out the weight of innertubes and tires as well. so basicly

things we need to complete this list.
weight of decks
weight of bindings
weight of tires
weight of innertube.
weight of heel straps
and for the hardcore people weight of griptape/trampatape.

McCarver · 12-01-2009, 01:42 PM

well you have both gi and mbs bindings right? Steal your uncle's weed scales for a few minutes.

leapb4ulook · 12-01-2009, 01:59 PM

It's all cool, and all. And I can see the benefits of lighter boards, but it seems to me that most people seem to forget the most obvious weigh-saving: their body. Is shaving a few grams from your board really going to improve your riding? Maybe, but not as much as losing a few kilos of body fat and toning up those muscles.

parkerbomar · 12-01-2009, 02:21 PM

the weight that your legs need to move is the issue the more weight the harder it is to spin.
it would be hard if you weighted 90lb and it would be hard if you weighted 250lb

If anyone wants to be of help you could go out and weigh your parts were still missing

Mbs ats x2 = ??? (s)
Mbs vector x2 = ??? ^
Mbs F4 x2 =??? R
Mbs F3 x2 =??? R
Mbs F2 x2 =??? V
Mbs freeflex x2 =??? V
Flame Ratchets x2 =??? R
Flame Velcro x2 =??? V
Mbs Fx pro x2 = ??? R
Mbs Fx x2 = ??? V
all tires
all decks
all scrub products besides trucks

ade_mcc · 12-01-2009, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leapb4ulook

It's all cool, and all. And I can see the benefits of lighter boards, but it seems to me that most people seem to forget the most obvious weigh-saving: their body. Is shaving a few grams from your board really going to improve your riding? Maybe, but not as much as losing a few kilos of body fat and toning up those muscles.

I vaguely remember reading a question in a windsurfing magazine where somebody asked 'why spend a fortune on a lighter board, why not lose weight?' Somebody replied with a really good answer, but I forget what it was. It was over 12 years ago mind but you never know, I might have the magazine in the loft or somewhere....

etchy6 · 12-01-2009, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leapb4ulook

Maybe, but not as much as losing a few kilos of body fat and toning up those muscles.

other than the fact muscle weight 3x the weight of fat

being a 13 stone rider on a pro 95 doesnt help, but I dont want a leon

parkerbomar · 12-04-2009, 04:36 PM

here is an updated list.

BgSurfer · 12-04-2009, 08:21 PM

Both trucks pictured are "channel" trucks. It has to do with the single central pivot on a kingpin.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jasper

are the channel trucks the ones with the plastic hangers or the metal?

Jasper · 12-05-2009, 01:28 PM

yeah i understand theyre both matrix but theres only one matrix on the list yet the hangers are different so i was wondering

McCarver · 12-05-2009, 01:42 PM

No they are both Channels, Matrix are what MBS call their channel trucks that have plastic hangers and bearings around the kingpin.

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McCarver 3rd Level Google Master Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 7,791	Very nice man, got a few pictures to go with it? Now to weigh the decks so we can know what the lightest possible pro set up would be. Maybe we could order them by weight like this: Mbs matrix x2 = 2014g ~ scrubs channel x2 = 2000g ~ Anarkite trucks x2 = 2000g 0 Revo trucks x2 = 1950g 0 Trampa infinity x2 = 1940g ~ GI Bionic Springs x2 = 1904g ~ GI bionic Cubes 09/10 x2 = 1814g [ ] Mbs matrix lite x2 = 1714g ~ Trampa vertigo x2 = 1700g ~ Flame Torsion x2 = 1600g [ ] Mbs vector pro x2 = 1416g ^ GI skate x2 = 1270g (s) scrubs skate x2 = 1236g (s) Mbs ats pro x2 = 1132g (s) GI skate hollow x2 = 1088g (s) GI titanium skate x2 = 906g (s) __________________ The Best Mountainboard Forum in the World To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by McCarver; 12-01-2009 at 01:31 PM.

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