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Old 01-29-2010, 06:55 PM   #1
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My inside sources have revealed the actual shape of the new 2010 Jereme Leafe, Do you think this will apply to all the new decks?

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Old 01-29-2010, 07:03 PM   #2
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Are you just trying to see how many threads you can start tonight?
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:06 PM   #3
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Yes
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:07 PM   #4
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And 5 in one day isnt a lot for me, Ive got 5,054 post for the love of god
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:08 PM   #5
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And plus I bought it, might as well get some use out of the mofo
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:19 PM   #6
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I feel like im being a downer but im gonna call it like i see it and i say it looks like a ground kite board template. I know boards and parts will look alike but it seems like mbs has lost innovation.
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:23 PM   #7
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I feel like im being a downer but im gonna call it like i see it and i say it looks like a ground kite board template. I know boards and parts will look alike but it seems like mbs has lost innovation.
I think you will see that basic shape more frequently in all MB decks. It is finally getting "closer" to ergonomic and performance oriented.

BTW our own Jimmy Chaos has been using that shape for quite some time now for his Destiny Boards.

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Old 01-29-2010, 07:24 PM   #8
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will mbs be making a kite deck this year?
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:25 PM   #9
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Also keep in mind that GI's biggest innovation this year was the introduction of a spring truck so I think if MBS takes a some pointers from GI to improve upon their deck design then everybody wins.
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:29 PM   #10
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I see quite a bit of pilfering all around. That new MBS top truck is very similar to the lightweight Trampa truck.

The GI spring Bionic is very similar to the MBS Matrix (with angled springs).
Edit: with a removable titanium axle stud.

Jimmy C has had that "kiteboard" shape for a while now.
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:30 PM   #11
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Yeah, which means in essence we are getting closer to our goal of compatible parts and a new world order
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:36 PM   #12
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All true. But as much as mbs is touted as a leader in design i wouldve expected something else.
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Like what an oval deck and square wheels?
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:39 PM   #14
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All true. But as much as mbs is touted as a leader in design i wouldve expected something else.
I agree they have not jumped out there with any particularly revolutionary innovations.

But I believe the high peformance modifications yet to come will be subtle in appearance.
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I guess it speaks a lot about ground and their products if mbs is borrowing from them
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Jimmy C has had that "kiteboard" shape for a while now.
Yeah Bg this came up in a previous thread, I've been using that shape since 2002.I like these pics better

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I guess it speaks a lot about ground and their products if mbs is borrowing from them
How so? Didn't ground borrow MBS adjustable spring suspension.

MBS has had the kite shape for a while -- it also has some subtle differences.

But I believe that kite shape was out there a while before ground had it.

Edit: But Ground does have one significant design innovation MBS has not attempted yet.
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:52 PM   #18
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I would say this is pretty innovative:



Looks like it is the first channel truck with true suspension, either that or it is the first MBS truck with a Torsion Triangle(?). What else could that dampener be doing underneath the kingpin? I mean could it be anything else?
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I would say this is pretty innovative:



Looks like it is the first channel truck with true suspension, either that or it is the first MBS truck with a Torsion Triangle(?). What else could that dampener be doing underneath the kingpin? I mean could it be anything else?
Sorry McC I'm just going to come out and say it. MBS pirated the Trampa truck.

I suspect I know what the inside apparatus is. It is both above and below the kingpin.

With the angled springs GI used, something I have wanted to try, it made me think more closely about the bowing I see in my MBS springs. When you compress an MBS spring in a turn/lean it bends with an inward curve toward the kingpin. That apparatus looks to be keeping the springs off the kingpin.

I suspect it may be compressible which will make it act as a damper as well.



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I must admit. There are some striking similarities.





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