Ground Industries Crossair Review

stlmtboarder · 10-15-2009, 04:18 PM

Recently I was lucky enough to get my hands on the new GI Crosshair hubs from Ground Industries. Aside from looking really good, they are also very light. A whole complete wheel weighs hardly anything. These hubs are strong too. They can hold up to 80 psi. Kody Stewart had them in Kansas and they held up to his riding no problem. Mine are only first batch prototypes so the production ones will look a little different. None the less they are great hubs and really do make your board feel lighter.

McCarver · 10-22-2009, 02:03 PM

Another piece of Stlmtboarder's great review based upon his custom GI/MBS Hybrid set up. Once again nice write up and killer images Brian. Any idea how much the hubs weigh without the tires for the sake of comparison?

BgSurfer · 10-22-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by McCarver

Any idea how much the hubs weigh without the tires for the sake of comparison?

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Originally Posted by BgSurfer

Individual Hub weights:

MBS Twistars -------0.28 lb
MBS Rock Stars -----0.30 lb
MBS Rock Star Pros -0.37 lb
GI Crosshairs -------0.40 lb
GI Terraintulas ------0.45 lb
MBS Trispokes ------0.50 lb

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stlmtboarder · 10-22-2009, 03:38 PM

keep in mind these are only prototypes so the final colors will be a little different. aside from that they are really great. they are the best hubs ive used out of the old crosshairs, rockstar pros, and normal rockstars

Mikael · 10-23-2009, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BgSurfer

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To also quote Brian Hillbilly when he was in the UK: "How much is that in normal ?"

Josh · 10-23-2009, 03:00 AM

What do people think of the original crosshairs?

Alan_RTH · 10-23-2009, 04:27 AM

best hubs available! maybe until now but Im not sure these will be as durable.

I've had my crossairs for nearly two years and they are still fine, I weigh 80kgs and get pretty big air (backflips, spins etc...) and they are still 100% fine! I also ride skateparks on them at 90PSI+

Josh · 10-23-2009, 01:32 PM

How heavy though?

The question is why did GI bring out vegas hubs?

BgSurfer · 10-23-2009, 07:14 PM

[QUOTE=Josh;10303]How heavy though?
QUOTE]

From GI's new spec sheet:

GI Crosshairs (1 hub) ------ 0.40 lb = 182 g

182 g x 4 hubs = 728 g (or 1.6 lb), no tires

stlmtboarder · 10-23-2009, 10:31 PM

vegas hubs were all about making money. cheap plastic but when u add the bling factor u can jack up the price which leaves u with a low quality hub that looks sick at a very high price. the idea might have been good at the time with the 3 piece and all but it wasnt all that practical. crosshairs are very solid though. just two tough pieces of injected molded nylon/composite. ive taken them off some huge drops landing on concrete and havent had problems. this is riding at 80-90 psi plus 8ft drops to concrete. id say the new ones are pretty damn sturdy. definitely worth it. not too expensive either.

Mikael · 10-24-2009, 12:03 AM

Sounds good, but that is not how you tell a good hub from a bad one.
The right way to do it is to "land" a big 450. That will tell.

Josh · 10-24-2009, 02:53 AM

well i can tell that vegas are bad hubs because one of mine broke from 270s.
But it is getting replaced

Alan_RTH · 10-24-2009, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikael

Sounds good, but that is not how you tell a good hub from a bad one.
The right way to do it is to "land" a big 450. That will tell.

yeah!! My old crossairs have put up with many sideways landings! especially while trying 5's

McCarver · 10-24-2009, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikael

Sounds good, but that is not how you tell a good hub from a bad one.
The right way to do it is to "land" a big 450. That will tell.

ha, that does sound like a good test

boarder bear · 10-24-2009, 02:28 PM

does anyboy know if the twiststars are strong because im thinking of investng in some !!

lewiss · 10-24-2009, 03:08 PM

have heard good things about them.
light and strong enough for the likes of me and you.

Mikael · 10-25-2009, 02:17 AM

They're the weakest hubs ever made by mbs, but that doesn't mean you're going to break them. Don't go over 50psi, be gentle (no unfinished spins), and you should be ok.

BgSurfer · 10-25-2009, 07:19 AM

Looks like Twiststars could be a good way to shave some weight of my street rigs though.

Assuming of course that they can accomodate 8-3.00-4 street slicks (?).

Jhammo52 · 10-25-2009, 08:13 AM

I do barely anything in the way of high impact. Still managed to deform one of my twinstars.

If you have a choice, don't get them. Get crosshairs or something. If you can't help it then seriously do as Mikael says!

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Originally Posted by Mikael

Don't go over 50psi

or you WILL regret it

GoofyMark · 10-25-2009, 09:01 AM

Ridden my twistars for over six months, always kept below 35psi, no problems at all, i dont get loads of air or do loads of spin tricks, but i've freeridden with them pretty hard, and had no probs, oh yeah, and i weigh 13 stone.

I decided to give em ago cos they're so cheap, and wasnt planning on getting any serious 'air' with them

Like everyone says just watch the air pressure, 35psi has worked fine for me, no probs keeping up with Mutley and his 80psi T3's on rockstar pro's!

10-15-2009, 04:18 PM	#1
stlmtboarder Urban Thrasher Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 659	Ground Industries Crossair Review Recently I was lucky enough to get my hands on the new GI Crosshair hubs from Ground Industries. Aside from looking really good, they are also very light. A whole complete wheel weighs hardly anything. These hubs are strong too. They can hold up to 80 psi. Kody Stewart had them in Kansas and they held up to his riding no problem. Mine are only first batch prototypes so the production ones will look a little different. None the less they are great hubs and really do make your board feel lighter. Last edited by McCarver; 10-25-2009 at 08:43 PM.

10-22-2009, 02:03 PM	#2
McCarver 3rd Level Google Master Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 7,783	Another piece of Stlmtboarder's great review based upon his custom GI/MBS Hybrid set up. Once again nice write up and killer images Brian. Any idea how much the hubs weigh without the tires for the sake of comparison? __________________ The Best Mountainboard Forum in the World To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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10-22-2009, 03:38 PM	#4
stlmtboarder Urban Thrasher Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 659	keep in mind these are only prototypes so the final colors will be a little different. aside from that they are really great. they are the best hubs ive used out of the old crosshairs, rockstar pros, and normal rockstars

10-23-2009, 03:00 AM	#6
Josh Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 190	What do people think of the original crosshairs?

10-23-2009, 01:32 PM	#8
Josh Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 190	How heavy though? The question is why did GI bring out vegas hubs?

10-23-2009, 07:14 PM	#9
BgSurfer Zen Carver Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bluegrass Hills Posts: 2,127	[QUOTE=Josh;10303]How heavy though? QUOTE] From GI's new spec sheet: GI Crosshairs (1 hub) ------ 0.40 lb = 182 g 182 g x 4 hubs = 728 g (or 1.6 lb), no tires

10-23-2009, 10:31 PM	#10
stlmtboarder Urban Thrasher Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 659	vegas hubs were all about making money. cheap plastic but when u add the bling factor u can jack up the price which leaves u with a low quality hub that looks sick at a very high price. the idea might have been good at the time with the 3 piece and all but it wasnt all that practical. crosshairs are very solid though. just two tough pieces of injected molded nylon/composite. ive taken them off some huge drops landing on concrete and havent had problems. this is riding at 80-90 psi plus 8ft drops to concrete. id say the new ones are pretty damn sturdy. definitely worth it. not too expensive either.

10-24-2009, 12:03 AM	#11
Mikael Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 688	Sounds good, but that is not how you tell a good hub from a bad one. The right way to do it is to "land" a big 450. That will tell.

10-24-2009, 02:53 AM	#12
Josh Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 190	well i can tell that vegas are bad hubs because one of mine broke from 270s. But it is getting replaced

10-24-2009, 02:28 PM	#15
boarder bear Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: leeds, england Posts: 13	does anyboy know if the twiststars are strong because im thinking of investng in some !!

10-24-2009, 03:08 PM	#16
lewiss Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: uk Posts: 93	have heard good things about them. light and strong enough for the likes of me and you.

10-25-2009, 02:17 AM	#17
Mikael Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 688	They're the weakest hubs ever made by mbs, but that doesn't mean you're going to break them. Don't go over 50psi, be gentle (no unfinished spins), and you should be ok.

10-25-2009, 07:19 AM	#18
BgSurfer Zen Carver Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bluegrass Hills Posts: 2,127	Looks like Twiststars could be a good way to shave some weight of my street rigs though. Assuming of course that they can accomodate 8-3.00-4 street slicks (?).

10-25-2009, 09:01 AM	#20
GoofyMark Advanced Novice Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Cheltenham UK Posts: 484	Ridden my twistars for over six months, always kept below 35psi, no problems at all, i dont get loads of air or do loads of spin tricks, but i've freeridden with them pretty hard, and had no probs, oh yeah, and i weigh 13 stone. I decided to give em ago cos they're so cheap, and wasnt planning on getting any serious 'air' with them Like everyone says just watch the air pressure, 35psi has worked fine for me, no probs keeping up with Mutley and his 80psi T3's on rockstar pro's!