MBS Matrix Hanger conversion

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MBS Matrix Hanger conversion

Post by _Kryten_ » Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:39 pm

Ok well I recently noticed my plastic matrix top hangers had started to wear after only a years so I decided to look into the matrix pro hangers. Deciding I can’t afford £150 I looked into weather the matrix pro top hanger would fit the standard matrix bottom hanger seems according to the MBS home page they aren’t compatible but coming from a machining background I decided to look into this further and took it upon myself to borrow a friends board that had the matrix pro full setup and stripped them down so here’s the difference.

The MBS matrix pro hangers don’t use bearing instead they use plastic bushes and the kingpins diameter is much smaller than the standard matrix king pin. So putting this in mind I thought to myself all that needs to be done is the bushes need to be bored out to a larger size to accommodate the standard larger king pin. I went ahead ordering these items 2 top pro hangers £16 each from the MBS website and a set of bushes £5 also from MBS. On arrival of the parts I decided to dive in and strip the lot down and start replacing old with new.

Once it came to fitting the new bushes all I did was make the hole a tad bigger by putting a 10mm drill through it placed the bushes in place and slotted the larger king pin in place this did take a tad more persuasion with a hammer but very little also you will need to source some washers one for behind the kingpins head and one for behind the kingpins locking nut. My hangers are now complete and are working fine but I shall be fully testing them within the month at Hales Superboul. But as they are they look great and like I say work fine so far making me a saving of around £114 and no more expense of plastic hangers.

So in short these are compatible with a little work. Oh I also changed the MBS egh shocks for Trampa Dampers wile the bord was stripped as the trampa dampas fit much better.

UPDATE TO PREVIOUS WRIGHT UP

Well I was at Hales Superboul over the weekend to give the hangers a good test and the results were astonishing. Hit the boul and the first run was atrocious due to the shocks not being set after the rebuild. it took a few runs but once it was set to how I like the board was running sweeter than it ever had it also feels so much more solid and I've got so much more confidence in the board. Replacing the hangers for the matrix pros with the slight mod was the best idea I've had in a long time I highly recommend everyone to do this if there planning on replacing there top hangers.

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Post by BgSurfer » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:27 pm

A good custom modification. Congrats.

I'm surprised there was enough plastic bushing left after the drill out. Have you considered using nylon washers to reduce metal-on-metal wear?


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Post by Ben » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:26 am

wow this sounds exactly like what i want to do....any chance of some close up pics of the disassembled components?

great work!
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Post by Kiwy » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:33 am

they actually look better filled.

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Post by _Kryten_ » Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:23 am

im considering getting the bushes remade from scratch out of nylon bar i use to make nuts, bolts and washers for a living and i dont beleave it would cost to much to get a few hundred of these knocked up do you guys thing this would be a good idea as a product to sell?

BgSurfer wrote:A good custom modification. Congrats.

I'm surprised there was enough plastic bushing left after the drill out. Have you considered using nylon washers to reduce metal-on-metal wear?


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yeah there was plenty left there was like only a 2mm difference in size and as for the washers being in nylon awsome idea.

Ben wrote:wow this sounds exactly like what i want to do....any chance of some close up pics of the disassembled components?

great work!


there wouldnt be much to show dude but if i get these bushes made ill pop some pics on.

Kiwy wrote:they actually look better filled.


Thanks Kiwy but to tell the truth i wasnt goin for the look it was more a matter of cost but it seems like it worked out all round because it does look fine and it hasnt made a big dent in the old pocket

Anywho as it is they work great.

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Post by Erich » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:50 am

I really like this. I would be interested in doing it, as well. If I bought the proper kingpins along with the other parts you mentioned from MBS would it all go together without any drilling? I'm in the US otherwise I would definitely just get the custom parts from you. Thanks

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Post by _Kryten_ » Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:12 pm

Erich wrote:I really like this. I would be interested in doing it, as well. If I bought the proper kingpins along with the other parts you mentioned from MBS would it all go together without any drilling? I'm in the US otherwise I would definitely just get the custom parts from you. Thanks


Hi Erich, do you have the normal matrix hanger? if you do i would just do exactly as ive done keep your kingpin as there is a tube in the bottom hanger that fits the king pin nice and snug if you go changing it the the smaller kingpin that comes for the matrix PRO there could a posible chance of play and future damage. oh and youll need to source some washers. so in short just do as ive done and get these parts if you want to give it a go.

http://shop.mbs.com/mountainboard-parts/mountainboard-trucks-suspension/mbs-matrix-pro-top-truck.html

http://shop.mbs.com/mountainboard-parts/mountainboard-trucks-suspension/mbs-matrix-pro-bushings.html

these bushes are the only things needing modifying with a 10mm drill its not the easyest thing to do and dont worrie if the hole ovels slightly once the kingpin is in its real nice and snug.

i plan on ringing my old boss in the morning for a price on 400 bushes.

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Post by _Kryten_ » Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:28 pm

yeah just seen the pic of your board
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so yeah just do as ive done pal and you will be laughing.
let me know if you go ahead with the purchase.

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Post by Erich » Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:44 pm

_Kryten_ wrote:yeah just seen the pic of your board
so yeah just do as ive done pal and you will be laughing.
let me know if you go ahead with the purchase.


might be a minute, but I'll let you know. thanks

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Post by Ben » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:46 am

_Kryten_ wrote:
http://shop.mbs.com/mountainboard-parts/mountainboard-trucks-suspension/mbs-matrix-pro-bushings.html

these bushes are the only things needing modifying with a 10mm drill.


ohhh now i get it lol thing is i have never look at a the pro trucks closely....i thought you meant the hole in the hanger needed drilling. this really does sound very easy. and cant argue with the savings!


other than the weight savings i wonder why they opted for a smaller/weaker king pin :S
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Post by _Kryten_ » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:02 pm

its all about the all mighty dolla pal. if you cant swop and change parts you have to buy a compleat set sucks really. but yeah thats is all that needs to be done. so get buying and modding and lets see a pic of your work once compleat.

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Post by Ben » Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:38 am

any progress with this? ive just snapped my hanger?> lol Image
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Post by Ben » Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:49 am

two bushes per truck right? cause ill be doing both trucks. did they come in a pack of one, two or four?
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Post by _Kryten_ » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:54 pm

yeah if you plan to do it ya self just buy the set from mbs you get 4 bushes but youll need to get some washers and boar the bushes out your self

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Post by Ben » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:37 pm

great, thanks
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Post by _Kryten_ » Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:14 am

post the results dude i want to see how ya board looks after the little mod

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Post by Ben » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:35 am

will do! might take a while though as it has to go MBSeurope==>kent, UK ==>Israel. hopefully no more than a couple of weeks.....
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Post by Ben » Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:30 am

parcel will be here tomorrow, as a matter of interest why do you guys thing nylon washer would be better? surely they would wear out before any metal ones...? im obviously missing something?
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Post by McCarver » Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:00 pm

you want them to wear off, the metal washers will eat at your trucks
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Post by Ben » Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:02 pm

ahhh i see. thanks for the clarification.
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