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Post by BgSurfer » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:12 am

Sadly, past communications with manufacturers have not produced much in the way of specific technical information.

I am now working with a custom fabricator in the US with the objecive of a carving deck under 2.5 lb. Also looks like I will have to go with custom bottom truck fabrication to get a lightweight bottom truck with 18" axle. Also custom light weight hubs with deep enought rims for street slicks?

I guess this is why new companies are formed (not that I want to) -- only way to move past the standardized rides.

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Post by McCarver » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:12 am

Yeah that's a good point, G.I. is pretty good about answering inquiries I may just have to try to get that info for yall
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Post by Mutley » Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:39 pm

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Post by McCarver » Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:47 pm

Updated Parts List:

Bindings - G.I. Talon
Bindings - G.I. Freestyle
Bindings - G.I. Roots
Binding - F2 VELCRO
Binding - Scrub Veclro
Binding -F4 Ratchet
Brakes - MBS V5 Brake Kit
Deck - MBS Sol16
Deck - Scrub Akashi 90 cm
Deck - Scrub Karakorum 99 cm
Deck - Scrub Monashee 90 cm
Deck - MBS PRO100
Deck - Trampa 15 (skate)
Deck - Trampa 35 long
Deck - Trampa 35 short
Deck- G.I. AK 103
Deck- G.I. AK Pro
Deck- G.I. Conflict
Deck- G.I. Edge
Deck- G.I. Flight
Deck- G.I. Flight Lite
Deck- G.I. Patrol
Deck- MBS Atom95
Deck- MBS Comp16
Deck- MBS Comp26
Deck- MBS comp95
Deck- MBS Core16
Deck- MBS PRO95
Deck -Scrub Tatrus 97cm
Deck-MBS Comp90
Deck-MBS Core90
Deck-MBS Core95
Deck-MBS PRO90
egg shocks yellow
Eggshocks Orange
Eggshocks Red MBS
Hubs - G.I. Crossair
Hubs - G.I. Multihub
Hubs - G.I. Tarantula
Hubs - G.I. Vegas
Hubs - MBS Rockstar
Hubs - MBS Twistar
Hubs - Rockstar Pro Aluminum
Hubs - Scrub 5-spoke
Hubs- MBSTri-spoke

Tires - G.I. Balistic Mak
Tires - G.I. bazooka
Tires - MBS T1 TREAD
Tires - MBS T2 Tires – 9”
Tires - MBS T3 Tires - 8”
Tires - Primo Alpha
Tires - Scrub "Runner"
Trucks - G.I. Bionic
Trucks - G.I. Slate Truck
Trucks - G.I. Spring
Trucks - Matrix Lite
Trucks - MBS Vector
Trucks - MBS Vector pro
Trucks - Scrub boost lite
Trucks - Scrub Channel
Trucks -ATS Pro by MBS
Trucks -Matrix
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Post by leapb4ulook » Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:08 pm

I've added all the parts on the list and a few others I thought of to the Compatibility Matrix. There are 94 products which makes 8836 boxes to be ticked or crossed. We need everyone to add what they know, so if you're familair with a product or three find it on the numbered list and work your way along the columns adding a '/' if you know it is compatible or a 'X' if you know it isn't compatible. If you don't know, or if the box corresponds to products that don't go together, leave it blank.
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Post by McCarver » Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:07 pm

Seems like it would almost be better broken down to components

For example which decks are compatible with which trucks, bindings, other accessories that are pertenent to decks. Then do trucks with compatible decks, rims, bearings, etc. With the current set-up you have other decks and tires and hubs to scross through that have no relatioin to the trucks and make it seem cluttered.
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Post by etchy6 » Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:14 pm

leapb4ulook wrote:Yeah, it needs all components or both axis, but thats easy enough, its just writing it once and then copy and paste. Then heel straps can match up with bindings, and tyres can match up with wheels, etc. etc.

Key:
Is compatible = /
Is not compatible = X
Not sure/untested = ?
Not possible = (blank) i.e. Deck and Hubs.


it is just about writing writing writing...

I spent MONTHS writing this database out...

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/16158664/Now-thats-What-I-Call-Database

ps: this is better than google docs (google docs isnt mac compatible)
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Post by GoofyMark » Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:06 am

I'm not claiming that I have the first idea how to create such a thing , but a deck construction 'wizard' would be cool.

The idea would be that you have drop down lists, which once you have made a selection on one would limit the choices in others, ultimately the same database, but requiring some pretty complex relational formulas on the drop down lists.

However it would be cool to use, and would be a good addition to the web site!

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Post by ade_mcc » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:02 am

I like GMs idea of a deck construction wizard very much. Maybe I'm getting well ahead of the game here, but if weight data was collected at some point then at the end of the wizard it'd also tell you how much your board weighed in total. Just because its raining I got to strip down and clean the nosno in the kitchen (wifes nice like that) and had a thought to weigh the parts as I was going along.
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I was shocked that the wheels where such a large percentage!!!!
Anyway, I'll be stripping down the other boards soon; usually do it twice a year if only to see whats wearing or likely to break next, and tempted to strip the wheels down further, just so I can see the influence of the hubs/tires/bearings individually.
I may even open up a new thread - Pie Chart your board!
Ps, before anyone laughs at the weight of my nosno, I have to say that you really don't notice it when flying through the woods :D
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Post by leapb4ulook » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:18 am

Thats so cool!
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Post by BgSurfer » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:35 am

Very nice ade mcc. I was sure my wheels contributed signifcantly -- I suspect my slicks/tubes/hubs weigh almost as much as my trucks. I guessed principal weight factors to be trucks, tires/wheels, deck.

I have some archived parts I can weigh if I can just find an accurate scale.

That nosnow is a tanker at 27.7 lb (12.5 kg). :eek:



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Post by shaker » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:40 am

Is that dry weight or wet weight _mcc? ;) :D

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Post by ade_mcc » Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:05 am

hmm was going to edit the post, but cant find edit button...
Anyways, stripped down the wheels so should be more accurate. I could have stripped down the MBS, but I thought the noSno would be simpler to to together a quick example.
Shaker, the parts have been dried first - no way will the wife forgive me for using the kitchen scales for soggy items!
BG, yes its heavy, but at the moment here in the UK where its wet, slippery with leaves everywhere, it goes places my MBS refuses to go! ;)
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Anyway, I reckon that between us as a community, we must own pretty much everything going. Shouldn't be a problem further down the line should we/me/someone clever decides to wizard things up.

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Post by McCarver » Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:24 am

Oooh that is cool. I like where this is going, this would be a handy tool for customization if we could complete it between all of us.
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Post by BgSurfer » Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:38 am

BgSurfer wrote:I guessed principal weight factors to be trucks, tires/wheels, deck.


On second thought... duh! That's pretty much what makes up a MB. :o

I suspect my wheel assembly (slicks, tubes, hubs, misc hardware) weighs the most. Will check.

A components weight chart would be extremely helpful especially for customizing the perfect ride.

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