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Post by markbrosnan78 » Fri May 03, 2013 6:46 am

After sorting out multiple punctures I went to try and practice Coleman's and shut downs. Grassy hill. Not long and a metal fence across the end. Not great but its all I've got locally and the fence is great motivation to stop.

I was out longboarding yesterday and I was getting Coleman's and Coleman shut downs down pretty good but couldn't pendulums them back.

Tried the same thing today on the mountain board and as soon as I loose traction the board just zips out from under me almost past 180 and I just land on my ass.

Tried to keep my shoulders parallel to the hill but is slide and then the toe side wheels would dig and and just pitch me.

Closest I got to staying on was to try and Coleman pendy her back but I just couldn't control her.

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Post by Jasper » Fri May 03, 2013 8:13 am

for getting the board in to a straight slide.

grab the board between your legs with your rear hand (some people grab around their back leg, but i go down between my knees) then unweight your back foot and push it out (like pushing a heavy door hard, not kicking a football). Trail your front hand behind u so that it squares your shoulders to the hill.

Once your board is across the hill, even up the weight on both feet. Look in the direction you want to travel and keep sliding to a stop. Dont lean forward/stand up too early or you will pitch forward and land on your knees.

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Post by Ben » Fri May 03, 2013 10:46 am

whats a coleman?
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Post by markbrosnan78 » Fri May 03, 2013 11:46 am

Coleman is a skating term for what effectively is a heel side slide.

Jasper, that's pretty much what I was doing/trying to do it as soon as I I intimated the slide she swung all the way round past 180 so no time to control her. I wasn't even pushing the rear foot out just leaning backward and carving/pulling uphill. Even when I tried slower turns she would still just slip right out from under me. It was like driving a car on ice.
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Post by Ben » Fri May 03, 2013 12:20 pm

tight or loose trucks? and what tyres?
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Post by markbrosnan78 » Fri May 03, 2013 1:11 pm

Primo Alphas on Trampa Matrix with yellow dampas kind of not loose or tight because I'm 200lb and with the soft dampas it turns easy enough.
Does "loose trucks save lives" apply to mountain boards.
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Post by Ben » Fri May 03, 2013 1:22 pm

id say your a bit heavy for yellows, are they tight? also what terrain you on?
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Post by Brennig » Fri May 03, 2013 1:22 pm

I think it's the alphas ... Try some T3s, MAKs or tramps softs. Slides are fun, it's a whole lot easier keeping a slide straight on dirt than grass. I think the only decent way to get a straightish slide on grass is to pendulum.
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Post by markbrosnan78 » Fri May 03, 2013 1:54 pm

Cheers guys. I like the yellows but I've always thought they might be a bit soft. I ride my longboards real loose but the mountain is probably a bit too tight.

I'll try some different tyres. I've got some splinter type things in some that are giving me a butt load of trouble.

I'll work on pendy's on both boards and see how I go.
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Post by markbrosnan78 » Sat May 04, 2013 3:13 am

So should I go green or red Trampa Dampas and then loosen off the trucks some?
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Post by Ben » Sat May 04, 2013 5:27 am

i reckon green would work for your weight, by the way what trucks? cause the matrix pros make the springs a bit more compressed due to the design
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Post by markbrosnan78 » Sat May 04, 2013 8:58 am

I don't know why I said Trampa Matrix they are Infinity trucks. I might just get both to go with my collection of bushings.
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Post by Ben » Sat May 04, 2013 11:11 am

lol sounds like a plan, anyway i know nothing about trampa trucks, never even seen any in the flesh.
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Post by markbrosnan78 » Sat May 04, 2013 12:40 pm

I did a comparison between my longboard set ups and my mountain board. The mountain board trucks are way tighter, not physically but in terms of how much effort it takes to turn them. I've had them looser but found them too unstable. Harder dampas and looser trucks may be the way forward.

T3's look like a good investment especially for kiting and I need to replace a set of tyres anyway.
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Post by barxx » Sat May 04, 2013 12:57 pm

I am watching this thread as i prob 'bout same size as you Mark and am soon to upgrade to some sort of channel trucks. so when you get it all worked out with the dampers i'll jump on your bandwagon as a set up. :)
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